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 Nov 12 2009, 08:05 PM
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Ultra HZ Pundit
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Count me out. As I told you in the "wanna be a friend" PM, either grow up or go away.
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Nov 25 2009, 05:15 PM
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No problem with Knuckles from me.
Knuckles you must understand that these guys are not true "Conservatives", they are TRUE "Liberals", such as myself. Americans have missed the mark on applying the proper labels to the proper political mindsets.
Ms. Ro Bair (I could never imagine anyone wanting to marry her thus the title) is actually closer to being a true "Conservative", since the definition was given by Edmund Burke and Burke did not agree with the concept of "Natural Law" or "Social Contract." Burke defended the concept of monarchy and aristocracy and the people needing to be reliant upon them for their livelihoods (communism/socialism achieves this exactly, only with government instead of individuals). The drive to turn a country into "one family, one body, one heart and soul", and never mind individualism, is a concept of Edmund Burke...much the same as it is a concept of Ms. Ro Bair and the American Democratic (Socialist implication intended) Party. Burke and Ms. Ro Bair are truer forms of knuckledraggers since they defend a concept of people's reliance upon government (the aristocrats) to meet their needs.
Whereas "Liberalism" is a concept designed around the promotion of the individual, a social contract, and the limiting of government. A concept Ms. Ro Bair and President O' Blah Blah Blah do not support. They do not feel that man has a right to failure and success; nor should they be allowed to grow from it, instead they believe man is ignorant and must be assisted by government in order to live, breathe, and breed.
So there you have it Knuckles, you are in a dilemma where the true liberals on this page understand and are educated on their political stances and they are truly not knuckledragging conservatives. But I hear your sarcasm in it...so no harm no foul.
Ax
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“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”—George Orwell
"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government."--James Madison
"the growth of the State giving the trustees of public authority more temptations and means to abuse their power, the more the Government has to have force to contain the people, the more force the Sovereign should have in turn in order to contain the Government,"-- Jean-Jacques Rousseau
"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition."--Thomas Jefferson
"If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy."--Thomas Jefferson
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Nov 27 2009, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (Axiom @ Nov 25 2009, 05:15 PM)  No problem with Knuckles from me.
Knuckles you must understand that these guys are not true "Conservatives", they are TRUE "Liberals", such as myself. Americans have missed the mark on applying the proper labels to the proper political mindsets.
Ms. Ro Bair (I could never imagine anyone wanting to marry her thus the title) is actually closer to being a true "Conservative", since the definition was given by Edmund Burke and Burke did not agree with the concept of "Natural Law" or "Social Contract." Burke defended the concept of monarchy and aristocracy and the people needing to be reliant upon them for their livelihoods (communism/socialism achieves this exactly, only with government instead of individuals). The drive to turn a country into "one family, one body, one heart and soul", and never mind individualism, is a concept of Edmund Burke...much the same as it is a concept of Ms. Ro Bair and the American Democratic (Socialist implication intended) Party. Burke and Ms. Ro Bair are truer forms of knuckledraggers since they defend a concept of people's reliance upon government (the aristocrats) to meet their needs.
Whereas "Liberalism" is a concept designed around the promotion of the individual, a social contract, and the limiting of government. A concept Ms. Ro Bair and President O' Blah Blah Blah do not support. They do not feel that man has a right to failure and success; nor should they be allowed to grow from it, instead they believe man is ignorant and must be assisted by government in order to live, breathe, and breed.
So there you have it Knuckles, you are in a dilemma where the true liberals on this page understand and are educated on their political stances and they are truly not knuckledragging conservatives. But I hear your sarcasm in it...so no harm no foul.
Ax Thank you AX, You hit it on the head. These guys suspect me because of my sarcasm and resent me because they are so damned self righteous and insecure. You are the only one who got it.
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Nov 29 2009, 06:23 AM
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We have had a similar type in here before, but it was a return of the same banned person and he/she was attempting to make the mindset of people like 2Old, Chubby, Marv, Analyst, etc. seem ignorant by misrepresenting it. So you have to understand their guard against such types.
However, I have not really seen that from you yet so I am not suspect that you are anything other than what you say you are. The "so-called Liberals" are always trying to misrepresnt our mindset, I think playing on their ignorance is fair game...so I get your sarcasm.
Have Fun,
Ax
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“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”—George Orwell
"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government."--James Madison
"the growth of the State giving the trustees of public authority more temptations and means to abuse their power, the more the Government has to have force to contain the people, the more force the Sovereign should have in turn in order to contain the Government,"-- Jean-Jacques Rousseau
"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition."--Thomas Jefferson
"If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy."--Thomas Jefferson
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Jul 14 2010, 02:03 AM
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Hello Everybody ...
I am John Form NY New member of this site.
John
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Jul 14 2010, 08:12 AM
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Ultra HZ Pundit
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Welcome John, jump in and enjoy.
Tell us a little about yourself......
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Lord, grant me the serenity to ignore the ignorant, the courage to debate the honest, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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